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"Should I Buy It?" – Patience and Time & Other Exotics

Xûr is back in town offering "new" wares. What's worth your coins today?

(See his arrival post for location and Halloween details.)

Item Class Subclass Type Cost
Patience and Time Any Any Sniper Rifle 17
The Armamentarium Titan Any Chest 13
Lucky Raspberry Hunter Any Chest 13
Voidfang Vestments Warlock Voidwalker Chest 13


Patience and TimeSniper Rifle

Flat out, Patience and Time easily has the most Stability of all Sniper Rifles. That's where its biggest strength lies; it's an excellent trait for this weapon type. It has balanced Rate of Fire and Impact, leaning toward ROF. Its most notable drawbacks are a slow reload speed and low reserve ammo. Patience and Time deals Arc damage.


Yes. The exceptional Stability is too high to ignore and the other talents are good. The namesake ability, Patience and Time, is generally not the reason it'd liked – the invisibility is too situational. (And the red sniper glare is still visible in PVP.) If you can handle the low ammo and fixed scope, it's a solid and very balanced Sniper.


All alternatives require a Stability upgrade to compare.


  • Field Choke: The most balanced choice. Aggressive Ballisitics is okay too. CQB Ballistics wastes Stability.
  • Third Eye: Helpful for not getting caught off-guard, but shouldn't really be happening at-range anyway.
  • Snapshot / Field Scout: Both good choices. Some like Snapshot for PVP; Field Scout helps the low reserve ammo.
  • Patience and Time: The invisibility is much less useful than it sounds, both in PVP and PVE.
    • PVP Note: The red sniper glare is still visible!

On to the armor!


Xûr, Agent of the Nine Has Arrived (10/31 - 11/2)

Xûr, Agent of the Nine has made his weekly stop in the tower, with a new collection of Exotic weapons & armor. This article is part of a time-saving series posted each week with his inventory and Tower location. His wares are the same across all platforms!


This week, Xûr is downstairs near the PVP vendors, on the left before the Hall of Guardians.


The Armamentarium
Titan Chest
13 Strange Coin
Lucky Raspberry
Hunter Chest
13 Strange Coin
Voidfang Vestments
Warlock Chest
13 Strange Coin
Patience and Time
Sniper Rifle
17 Strange Coin
Exotic Engram
Helmet Engram
23 Mote of Light
Flight of Shadows
Strange Coin*

* Halloween tip! From redditor /u/ughkillmeplz (and many others):

"Wear your jackolyte and you can buy the flight of shadows item from Xur for 1 strange coin."

Active Time

The Agent of the Nine arrived on Friday October 31st at 9:00am UTC, and will be gone (along with his gear!) on Sunday November 2nd at 9:00am UTC. Hope you've got the coins to spare!


The Dark Below: Full Overview of Expansion #1

10/30 Edit: There's a new, extra-detailed page on The Dark Below!

Nearly two months from launch, Destiny still holds a firm grip on us. To keep us playing, Bungie is soon releasing the first expansion: The Dark Below. This one's all about the Hive, so prepare your Solar weapons and Moonboots.

What else can you expect? Here's a summary on everything we know about The Dark Below:

Name: The Dark Below (Expansion #1)
Release: December 9th (Global)
Price: $20 (or $35 for Expansion 1 & 2)
Expansion #2: House of Wolves (2015)
Official Sites: Expansion Page and Event Page (new!)


  • New Legendary and Exotic gear; one Exotic exclusive* to PlayStation
  • Light level cap raised to 32 (from 30) – that's 142 light
  • Bounty slots will increase from 5 to 10
  • The Story missions, Strike, Raid, and Crucible maps listed below!

Halloween in Destiny! What You Need to Know

Halloween is here!...well, not yet, but it is in Destiny! Bungie released their weekly patch, and with it came a whole host of new items. Let's check everything out in-depth!

8 New Database Entries

"Refer A Fireteam"

Refer A Fireteam is a mysterious package players will receive in the mail. For doing what? We're not exactly sure, other than some kind of referral (obviously). The flavor text doesn't help much: "We celebrate every Guardian who returns from the dark. A gift for you for leading another one home."

Just Like Candy: New Consumables

Next time you're at the Tower, you'll have a package in the mail called All Hallows' Eve. Opening the package will grant you three Jackolyte. And what are those for?

Jackolyte are a consumable which last 30 minutes. Cosmetically, it replaces your head with a three-eyed jack-o'-lantern. It's also rumored to work like the Black Wax Idol – and may briefly replace them as in-game drops (from Major Acolytes). Even better, an active Jackolyte will cause you to hear screams! (see video below)

There's also Flight of Shadows, a consumable which changes the appearance of your respawn for 24 hours. Based on the name and small bat on the vial, it must look like a swarm of bats. We can't wait to see that in action!

Four Sparrows of the Apocalypse

We see what you did there, Bungie! Four new Sparrows, Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse. Complete with flames, they ride in four colors: S-30 Tumbler, S-31 Nightfall, S-32 Snowflake, and the S-33 Dragonrider.

The best part of these new rides? A new talent! Destabilizers. Presumably by holding both triggers (like Overdrive for the XV0 Timebreaker and SV7 Lightbearer), you will "release roll stabilizers" and begin to tumble. What does that look like? As of yet, nobody knows. Sounds like a hell of a lot of fun, though!

We'll keep updating this post, and the related database pages, as we get more info. Props to Bungie for giving us holiday-themed content! Let's hope for a D-25 Skyrider for jolly Guardians this December.


Hotfix 10/28/2014 - Update + Halloween Jackolyte!

Destiny's latest patch is live!

(Scroll down for Halloween info.)

This one is almost entirely stability fixes. They also tweaked Vault of Glass. Good fix: Atheon can't be knocked off the platform. 'Bad' fix: three random players (not three furthest back) are teleported – a very unpopular change.

Future patches will include: Exotic Weapon tuning, voice chat features, and the ability to hold more Bounties.

Originally posted by Destiny Dev Team (Original Post)


This update makes Destiny a more stable experience for all players. We’re also changing the player experience in the Raid to ensure that the activity provides an endgame challenge that meets project goals for the intended level of difficulty.


  • Fixed an issue in which multiple errors reported with Zebra error codes
  • Errors previously reporting as Zebra will now display as their own separate codes
  • Fixed a rare issue related to being Kicked To Login repeatedly
  • Fixed a rare issue that resulted in a Kick To Orbit reported with the Cockatoo error code


  • Fixed an issue where some players would occasionally be erroneously kicked at the beginning of an activity due to a server error
  • Increased protection against account corruption


  • Fixed an issue where Atheon was not choosing random targets for teleport through the timestream during the final encounter on the Vault of Glass
  • Fixed an exploit where Atheon could be forced off his platform

More updates are to follow as we continue to support Destiny. Future enhancements being worked on include Exotic Weapon tuning, new features for voice communication between matchmade teammates, and the ability to hold more Bounties in your pocket at any time.

Were you affected by the connection issues? What do you think about the raid changes?

Halloween has begun in the Tower!

As you might've noticed, Bungie has begun to celebrate Halloween à la Headless Horseman! They've added the Jackolyte consumable, a three-use cosmetic item which lasts 30 minutes per use. It replaces your head with a lovely jack-o'-lantern! Flavor text: "The Hive may haunt the dreams of children, but you haunt the dreams of the Hive."

To get yours, check the in-game mail for a package called All Hallows' Eve. You only get one pack of three per account (not per Guardian), so use 'em wisely! Note: There's a rumor that Jackolytes a rare drop from major (yellow HP) Acolytes. Jackolyte may be a temporary replacement for Black Wax Idol. Seems plausible to us!

Consider This #1: Jackolyte is no doubt a reference to the Hive enemy type Acolyte.

Consider This #2: "The dreams of children" is linked to one of The Speaker's early lines of dialogue. "There are many tales, told throughout the City to frighten children. Lately those tales have stopped. Now the children are frightened anyway." This line has often been quoted by frustrated players who want more from Destiny's plot.

Halloween Audio! Bungie has also added random screams to Destiny's ambient music. 

New Image! We've got a look of the Jackolyte in action! Ooooooh.


"Should I Buy It?" – SUROS Regime & Other Exotics

Xûr is back in town offering new wares. What's worth your coins today?

Item Class Subclass Type Cost
SUROS Regime Any Any Auto Rifle 23
The Armamentarium Titan Any Chest 13
Crest of Alpha Lupi Hunter Any Chest 13
Voidfang Vestments Warlock Voidwalker Chest 13


SUROS RegimeAuto Rifle

SUROS, you make a quality weapon. Originally sold in Week 3, the SUROS Regime held a 2-week reign of terror in PVP. It was no doubt a major factor in the recent Auto Rifle nerf. Is it still a lethal killing machine worth 23 Strange Coins? Or has it lost its magic?

Let's start with this: among all Exotic and Legendary Auto Rifles, the SUROS Regime has the highest Stability in-class (82). Even its closest rival falls 2 short, the not-yet-available Black SUROS ADM-94 (80). It even has solid Range (40), only passed by Grim Citizen III (42) and the PlayStation-exclusive Monte Carlo (52). Based on these two stat strengths, the SUROS Regime is strong at medium range even post-nerf. All other stats are fairly average.


Yes. It's tempting to buy just for its notoriety. We recommend you consider three things:

Q1. "What kind of Auto Rifle do I like?"
A1. There are three types of Auto Rifle (Impact/Rate of Fire): 28/77, 8/88, and 2/100. The SUROS Regime is in the "high Impact, slow ROF" family of 28/77. Is that the type you'd prefer?

Q2. "Do I like the slow, higher-damage shots when zoomed?"
A2. The SUROS Regime already has a slow ROF compared to other ARs. When zoomed, it shoots even slower (but with more damage). Will this bother you, or would you actually prefer that? (It ends up shooting a bit like a full-auto Scout Rifle.)

Q3. "What other Exotic weapon might I prefer?"
A3. It's important to consider: will you use the SUROS Regime over other Exotics? That's simply a question based on what else you have, how many coins you can spare, and what you'll want in upcoming weeks.

Some other bits to keep in mind...


Xûr, Agent of the Nine Has Arrived (10/24 - 10/26)

Xûr, Agent of the Nine has made his weekly stop in the tower, with a new collection of Exotic weapons & armor. This article is part of a time-saving series posted each week with his inventory and Tower location. His wares are the same across all platforms!


This week, Xûr is in the Hall of Guardians (Vanguard room), on the right side when you enter.


The Armamentarium
Titan Chest
13 Strange Coin
Crest of Alpha Lupi
Hunter Chest
13 Strange Coin
Voidfang Vestments
Warlock Chest
13 Strange Coin
SUROS Regime
Auto Rifle
23 Strange Coin
Exotic Engram
Gauntlet Engram
23 Mote of Light

Active Time

The Agent of the Nine arrived on Friday October 24th at 9:00am UTC, and will be gone (along with his gear!) on Sunday October 26th at 9:00am UTC. Hope you've got the coins to spare!


DestinyDB PS4 Giveaway and Bungie's Weekly Update 10/17/2014

Thanks to our friends our friends at Lockerdome we've got a Playstation 4 and a copy of Destiny to give away!

To enter just check out the widget below and follow the instructions.

DestinyDB's PS4 Giveaway in DestinyDB< br>/a>; on LockerDome

In this week's Bungie Weekly Update DeeJ talks about some of the design philosphy behind the recent weapon balance changes, upcoming Vex Mythoclast changes, and fixes for Atheon in Vault of Glass.


You can check out the entire post after the break!


Xûr, Agent of the Nine Has Arrived (10/17 - 10/19)

Xûr, Agent of the Nine has made his weekly stop in the tower, with a fresh stock of exotic weapons and armor. This article is part of a time-saving series we post each week with his inventory and location in the tower. His goods are consistent across all platforms!


This week, Xûr is to the right just as you enter the hangar.


The Armamentarium
Titan Chest
13 Strange Coin
Achlyophage Symbiote
Hunter Helmet
13 Strange Coin
Light Beyond Nemesis
Warlock Helmet
13 Strange Coin
Rocket Launcher
17 Strange Coin
Exotic Engram
Body Armor Engram
23 Mote of Light

Active Time

The Agent of the Nine arrived on Friday October 17th at 9:00am UTC, and will be gone along with his inventory on Sunday October 19th at 9:00am UTC. Better farm those coins!


DestinyDB Site Improvements

Improvements abound here at DestinyDB, and over the last couple of weeks we’ve been pushing new features and updates to the site.

Updated Tooltips with More Stats

As some users have noticed since we launched DestinyDB, the stats on armor and weapons were only approximations of the in-game values. But after much research by our awesome developer team we’ve got all the stats, which means everything from Attack to Defense and even Light should now match what you see in-game!

You can check out all the additional stats on items such as Vex Mythoclast, Atheon's Epilogue, SUROS Regime, and Fate of All Fools.

Also for those who are using our tooltip script, your website should already be sporting the updated stats in our all new tooltips!


If you have not already setup the Tooltip script, it is real simple:

  • Add this piece of code to your <head> section of your website.
<script type="text/javascript" src="http://desjs.zamimg.com/asset/js/tooltips.min.js"></script>
  • Tada! Now any database entry you link on your website will have tooltips just like here on DestinyDB!

Improved 3D Models

We launched 3D Models a few weeks ago and we’ve made several improvements since. You can now see that the models have significantly improved in quality.

One of the first improvements that was implemented was adding lighting to our model viewer. On the old models the textures were rather flat and didn't quite match up to the in-game versions, but once we added lighting the models look exactly like they do in-game. You can see the difference in the old and new versions right below. 


The second addition was adding transparency to models on Guardian profiles. Some items such as Hardcase Cloak have a ragged edge or other transparent areas on the models. To better match what you see in game, we implemented the transparency on Guardian profiles.

Optimized Event Timer for Xbox One and iOS App

Guardians who play on the Xbox One will be pleased to know we have an Xbox One optimized version of the Event Timer that you see on the right hand side of the front page of DestinyDB, this is great for snapping to the side of your screen so you can know exactly when public events will spawn!


Don't forget you can easily filter the Event Timer by clicking the Filter button in the top right and here you can select which timers you want to track. Doing Bounties on Earth? Check that Earth box and it will display how long until the next Public Events could spawn in the Cosmodrome.


iOS users can now download the Destiny Timers app on the iTunes App Store, with this app you can track all the Public Events and Vendor resets right on your iOS device!


Good Hunting, Guardians!

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